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How exactly do you file W-2s for your illegal employees?

Date: 2006-06-30 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashesofautumn.livejournal.com
... and apparently it's a "no brainer." Clearly.

Date: 2006-06-30 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugarjet03.livejournal.com
You file your W-2 like you would normally. If they've got a Social Security number, and they are fine workers, then most people just tend to look the other way. My dad's company hires illegal immigrants (he doesn't do the actual hiring, but he runs the W-2s), and that's what they do.

Date: 2006-06-30 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugarjet03.livejournal.com
I just realizes that my comment makes my dad look like a pimp :)) He's the CFO/co-owner of a construction company/highway contractor, actually. The reason many employers overlook the citizenship of their workers is because they are so hard-pressed for the manpower. They don't check the SS numbers unless they have to, so without any invesitgation, many illegal workers can look legit on paper.

Date: 2006-07-01 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-o.livejournal.com
I actually assumed it was something similar to what you described and not that your dad was a pimp! :D

Date: 2006-07-05 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendywoowho.livejournal.com
And, in some cases, if you are presented with documents that look nice and legal, you as an employer aren't allowed to go poking around to see if they are nice and legal.

Date: 2006-07-06 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugarjet03.livejournal.com
Very true.

Date: 2006-06-30 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irinaauthor.livejournal.com
It is hilarious that they're all, "This will help us identify pimps and put them in jail!" Like, pimping is already illegal, guys. And while it might not have been obvious that Al Capone was rumrunning just by looking at him, if you spot a man in a red leather fedora, a hand full of blood diamonds, and a full length fur coat in the middle of July, he is a pimp. Arrest him.

Date: 2006-06-30 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-o.livejournal.com
Never mind his cadre of indentured sex slaves! :D

Date: 2006-06-30 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killertofu.livejournal.com
The Pimps: "Yeah, I'm so going to let my hookers file W-2s so they can arrest my ass. Right."

Seriously, don't announce that you're going to identify pimps this way so you can arrest them.

Date: 2006-06-30 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gamps-garret.livejournal.com
The argument is that the particular proposal would allow them to go after pimps more easily and effectively. It's fairly easy to identify, prosecute, and convict prostitues; and ridiculously difficult to do the same for pimps. By creating a criminal offense (which is what this law would do), there would be a cut-and-dry set of evaluations to determine whether someone is breaking the law. Under the table income is illegal, so this would be one way to get a handle on the issue -- if a pimp doesn't file an appropriate claim, the IRS can investigate his source of income, which can then be prosecuted as a white collar crime, which is much simpler.

I don't like the propsal myself, because it sets up the scenario for entrapment laws. And, there aren't standards within the sex worker industry in the first place. The government DOES need to end the exploitation of women and children, but needs to do so while protecting the rights of legal adults capable of making their own choices.

Date: 2006-06-30 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3starsinmyeyes.livejournal.com
because jailing them for tax evasion is so much simpler than jailing them for the illegal act of prostitution and pimping, which apparently is so mindbogglingly complex they had to sit around and think up this gem of an idea...

i think my brain cows just jumped over the moon

Date: 2006-06-30 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-o.livejournal.com
Yeah, I read the proposal. I still want to know how you file a W-2 for your illegal sex slave. I understand that the idea is that no one would file a W-2 and once the law exists it would be easy to pin that on the pimps... But I think it opens a can of worms towards potentially legalizing sex industry jobs. Which would be cool in my opinion. Get those (mostly) women benefits and health care. Make their jobs safer. But I KNOW that is not what that dude is going for.

Date: 2006-06-30 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3starsinmyeyes.livejournal.com
yeah it sounds like they are taking the stance of "haha we got em now"

what if they were filing w-2's for the prostitutes though? now that would be kinda funny

Date: 2006-07-01 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-o.livejournal.com
Right. Either boldly saying this is my ho. Or possibly saying they are all cleaning ladies.... or something.

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